also, more importantly in the government as a whole, and how they will sustain the fight against the taliban after most american troops are gone. when i say "most american troops," i'm leaving open the doors the president has for leaving behind a training advisory and counter terrorism mission of some thousands of troops. the president wants to do this as he did in iraq, the hang up as also in iraq is whether the afghani government grants a status of forces agreement that will give us legal immunity for our troops. that's the american military presence around the world. we have it now in afghanistan based upon u.n. and other considerations, but that expires in 2014. that's the key issue that they are looking at right now. what president karzaiments beyond some troops is military support in terms of funding equipment and also economic assistance. cheryl: not a lot of willingness on either side to come to an agreement, we hope there's a sense today on what u.s. troops are doing in afghanistan after 20 # 14, but there are some of the democratic party that say we need to pull all troops out of a